ID: e1d6a No.13566
What the fuck is this. Are they seriously going to make Hope into a knight?
ID: c2cc8 No.13567
I mean… is the comic not called… "Knighthood"?
ID: 2d314 No.13568
Or, if you actually READ it, you'll see that it's still Joy talking and her SISTER has come back home to visit her FAMILY
I know the writing in the comics is never really…. coherent most of the time but still :P
ID: 9d8ee No.13569
Oh boy, Hope is coming home to visit the family. I wonder how Joy is going to react to this? Also, if I recall from an earlier page, Drake did seem intrigued when Joy mentioned she had a sister.
ID: 6d0fa No.13570
Hope could just be visiting because she heard Joy was back or something.
ID: f2b53 No.13572
Right from square one, forgetting their own damn lore again. Primes came to Earth and had to try and blend in among humans only about a millenium before Earth's destruction and reformation.
And if Primes and humans being together is so common, why are there no humans in this comic anymore and in fact a whole continent designated as apparently just for Primes?
ID: 6d0fa No.13573
>>13572>Right from square one, forgetting their own damn lore again. Primes came to Earth and had to try and blend in among humans only about a millenium before Earth's destruction and reformation.
An extremely small number came to earth. Like if it's how it was in the old bonus comic/forum lore then it was only Kate, Bengala, Ambar, Howl, Xencia, and Geecku and they're crests. Kate and Xencia lived in seclusion, Geecku lived in a forest extremely far from normal civilization, and IIRC Bengala was raised in a temple. Not many showed up for there to be some huge impact until much later.
>And if Primes and humans being together is so common, why are there no humans in this comic anymore and in fact a whole continent designated as apparently just for Primes?
While she doesn't show up often, Aliana does exists on the farm. As did Bruce when he worked for Alejandra.They just aren't central to the plot. Las Lindas takes place on a prime continent and a small part of it at that so having two humans at best from what we've seen doesn't mean that humans and primes aren't couples off in other places. It would be nice to see but it isn't really required.
In fact according to that old ass lore, the primes were given a continent to live on as a reward for taking down the big bad space emperor. It's unsurprisingly going to be 99.9% primes because humans still had their lands.
ID: f9ed8 No.13576
This lore is really stupid.
Basically segregation and humans are treated like second class citizens to their alien invaders.
ID: 30b47 No.13578
>>13576>Humans are treated like second class citizens.
No they aren't and primes aren't required to live on the continent. There's no known law saying they have to or that humans can't live there.
ID: f2b53 No.13582
During Ambar's history lesson, she implied far more than just those few came, and that most of them had to hide themselves and blend in to avoid trouble. Also worth noting is Kate was sent to Earth long after the others, and Ambar was apparently born and raised in China despite having a Spanish name.
Oh yeah, and gotta love how Naerie's still being turned more and more into a lookalike of her mom.
ID: f9ed8 No.13598
Maybe Im the only one, but I much prefer Chalo's old art to the newer stuff.
ID: f2b53 No.13600
Yeah, particularly in Mora's case. She actually looks really good in the older pic, now she's almost like a parody of herself.
ID: 724d8 No.13609
Knowing Mora's past and how she first recruited Miles and Minos, we know she's great at selling her goods ( ° ʖ °)
ID: f2b53 No.13611
>>13608>IF we have buyers
Yeah, look, it's not even worth the time to pretend there are any risks or high stakes here.
Also, are we actually supposed to believe that months went by, without any apparent source of income at a point where they were facing bankruptcy, and what Alej is holding is all they've made? It takes like two weeks to make your own beer, and that's without all the high-grade industrial shit that just got installed, what were they doing this whole time? You sure you didn't mean to have her say "a few weeks ago", guys?
ID: bb058 No.13614
Ew, sarah and miles :c
Have some of my sona and sarah (and angel) instead
ID: c2cc8 No.13616
>>13611>and what Alej is holding is all they've made?
No? She just brought over a tester from the first batch. Just because she says the first batch is done and she's holding some of the product doesn't mean that's the entirety of what they've made, that's ridiculously obvious to anyone who doesn't have the brain of a small child.
ID: 9d8ee No.13617
That's not Miles. According to some other posts, that character is named "Lane" (he's the character of the one who commissioned that particular pic). I guess it just looks similar to Miles because of the way Chalo draws.
ID: f2b53 No.13621
That still leaves the problem of the fact that it doesn't take months to make beer, especially not when you've got an actual factory to do it with. Also, if there's more than that, maybe there should be some indication of this, like maybe better phrasing or showing some form of a larger amount all packaged up, because yes, her presenting a set of six bottles to Mora and stating "Here's the starter batch" does directly imply that that's what we're looking at.
And since I doubt they've gone months without making money while well into the point Alej said they'd be sunk by (with still several months to go until their next paycheck apparently), I have to assume either the script got flubbed, no thought went into it and it'll be glanced over by the next page as per usual, or the comic just experienced a huge timeskip without any notice of one and their financial crisis, the whole reason Mora had the brewery stuff set up in the first place, is just another conflict that vanished into nothingness because potatoes.
ID: f2b53 No.13624
Because maybe at this point it'd be kinda cool and different to see some actually competent writing and scene composition in this comic.
ID: 1f7dd No.13625
I dunno. I feel like if I couldnt stop complaining about every little thing chalo draws I would have just stopped following his stuff.
ID: c2cc8 No.13626
Right? We've been doing this how many years at this point? "Well I'm waiting for it to get good" is a sort of lame excuse by now.
ID: f2b53 No.13637
Is Shin just way tinier than I remember, or is Naerie's design such an Ambar 2.0 now that she's become enormously tall? And why do they keep talking like Primes are all these towering superpowered giants who could kill a human if they fucked them?>>13633
Yeah, great, encourage Miles some more, why not.>>13634
Wow, there's your swole sex god, Miles fans. Goddamn.
ID: f9ed8 No.13638
Oof that is a real personal insert there SK. Honestly, is dropping out of college such an outlier in this world that it's what people think of when they think of Miles?
Also weird Mora would fondly make one after Miles considering how turbulent theyve been and never really had much of a 'make up' scene– but whatever.
Lets get to Taffy and Randal's wedding so the comic can wrap up already.
ID: 724d8 No.13641
>>13637>Wow, there's your swole sex god, Miles fans. Goddamn.
Well we've seen Miles's dick a couple times already. He's average to above average for a human but he's real small for a typical male in this series.
ID: f2b53 No.13642
Yeah, no, that's not "above average" by any stretch of the imagination.
ID: c2cc8 No.13643
>>13638>Oof that is a real personal insert there SK. Honestly, is dropping out of college such an outlier in this world that it's what people think of when they think of Miles?
Eh, in this case "Wasted Education" really does sound like a craft beer name, so the name itself isn't that odd. And let's face it, dropping out of college is one of the few notes of significance in Miles' life, he has done almost literally nothing else you could even think to name something after. What else are they gonna name the beer, "Attempted Date Rape"?
Mora treating it as some sort of inspiring decision is still pretty lame though, considering her general opinion of Miles.
ID: f2b53 No.13644
I know, right? Like, did they cut a scene where Mora decides as suddenly as Rachael that her opinion of Miles has done a complete 180?
ID: f9ed8 No.13673
yikes.. Chalo what is going on with this anatomy dude?
ID: f2b53 No.13675
You're only now noticing how bad he actually is at drawing these kinds of things?
ID: 724d8 No.13676
Yeah it's been pretty wonky for a while, especially when he draws Mora, but this one is easily the worst.
ID: f2b53 No.13678
Can someone please inform Chalo that if Mora's supposed to be as hardened and ripped as he wants us to buy she'd be, her belly should not be overlapping her waistband? This isn't even the first time he's done this, it's getting ridiculous how little understanding he has of how bodies work.
ID: d9ce1 No.13683
Can somebody please get it though your head that nobody fucking cares?
ID: f2b53 No.13684
Can you maybe take a moment to notice there are pretty clearly multiple people currently criticizing these pics, so obviously someone does care?
ID: 2d314 No.13690
Don't waste your energy, they'll defend chalo to the death on this board as someone who can do no wrong and anyone that complains or even critiques his work is just seen as someone who can't understand how amazing he is as an artist. Probably why after well over 20 years he still lets some big errors slip through, no one is allowed to tell him he's wrong :P
Unless it's really bad of course, then they just stay quiet until the next pic gets posted and they can forget about the last one.
ID: d9ce1 No.13691
You're a fucking idiot.
ID: 19f07 No.13693
Well, can you prove them wrong, instead of hurling insults at them?
ID: 6af21 No.13695
>anyone that complains or even critiques his work is just seen as someone who can't understand how amazing he is as an artist.
I've seen this argument a few times over the years for regarding a bunch of different artists on a bunch of different sites.
You need to understand that there is no point in trying to critique an artist who hasn't asked you for your opinion. There's even less point in doing so here since he doesn't read this board. I know you and everyone else wants to think of themselves as this intelligent person who tells it like it is, but if you tell it like it is to someone who doesn't care you just come across looking like a jackass.
That's why some people tend to be less critical. He's a guy who makes furry porn based off his webcomic. He's not the next Vincent Van Gogh and i don't think he has any aspirations to be. Until that changes you're better off just trying to enjoy it for what it is, warts and all, or following something else.
ID: d9ce1 No.13696
"Please debate me."
I don't have the time or energy to argue with this shit.
ID: c2cc8 No.13697
Oh look, someone who gets it.
See, it's not that we relentlessly defend Chalo and the comic, as we've explained many times before but seen these stunning intellectuals suddenly become illiterate as to those posts. It's that we're tired of the constant and pointless negativity, the people that come here only to bitch into the void, and then ego stroke themselves about how theirs is clearly not only the correct opinion but the majority opinion and anyone who doesn't praise them for stating it is clearly just a drooling fanboy.
We got rid of the Naylor board and, indeed, any discussion of Naylor's comics at all because we were tired of our own
relentless negativity on the subject. That wasn't an invitation for someone or a group of someones or whatever to fill the void of bitchiness by hating on something else with a singleminded intensity fit for politics.
ID: f2b53 No.13698
Of course he can't.
ID: f9ed8 No.13699
At least the Naylor boards sometimes had some substance, sometimes we got critical looks into the errors of it.
Chalo's comics dont really offer much narrative substance or are even that deep - so everything devovles into 'Well I dont like x ship' or 'Chalo isn't drawing x the right way that makes my pp hard.'
*IF* anything, Chalo's works are over-discussed IMO. There just isn't anything really there to talk about.Why can't ya'll pull apart another comic that is at least mildly has a plot or characters with more depth than a paper towel.
ID: c2cc8 No.13702
But if you do, please do it somewhere else. Lulz, or u18, 4chan maybe.
ID: f9ed8 No.13707
I would figure talking about the narrative structure/character arcs of the comics is better than 'Wah my OTP isnt canon'.
ID: d9ce1 No.13710
Like I said.
Who gives a shit?
ID: a714f No.13721
Man, I wish he'd stop drawing Sarah's nipples like that already.
ID: f2b53 No.13722
Why? They kinda suit her.
What I wish is that he'd stop drawing those stupid-looking pube tufts on more and more characters. And learn how hair works, cause Sarah's has grown at a ludicrous speed yet still somehow appears short when it's in her little pigtails.
ID: 780ee No.13723
I actually kinda like'em myself, they just make her look even softer somehow. :P Fluffy kitten, I bet she'd be perfect to snuggle with. >w< ~~~<3
ID: f2b53 No.13739
…So…Hikari just spontaneously aged 10 years, did she?
Place your bets on when we see porn of her, everyone.
ID: d9ce1 No.13769
Using a well known abuser for a reaction? That's a paddlin'
ID: f2b53 No.13770
Oh look, another person who can't tell the difference between Doug Walker and Mike Michaud. And lo and behold, it's the guy who consistently looks for anything he can to bitch about in people's reactions to the comic.
ID: f2b53 No.13773
"I don't know how to actually respond to that, so here's a meme image with an overused word that doesn't even fit the situation."
ID: f9ed8 No.13774
Not so fun when the dunking isn't on Miles but your waifu eh?
No need to get your panties in a knot, you hate Chalo anyways.
Though whining like this probably only encourages them to shit more on characters.
ID: f2b53 No.13775
Why do you assume someone not finding the lame punchline funny must mean Rachael is that person's fuckin' waifu?
It's amazing how many hilariously stupid takes Miles fans spit out.
ID: 780ee No.13776
Ya'll fuckers need a hobby, seriously.
ID: f9ed8 No.13777
lmao, do you ever even go outside?
ID: 780ee No.13778
Try that question again, this time looking in the mirror.
ID: f9ed8 No.13780
Oh yes, thank you - I'm so sorry, please police an image board more with your moral superiority about big-tiddy cow comics.
Shall I self-flagellate for calling out the obsessive stalker Chalo has?
ID: f2b53 No.13781
It's incredible that a sarcastic one-word reaction to a punchline in a webcomic sets you off this hard.
ID: 6075c No.13782
Rofl, you're so waful
ID: 90748 No.13792
Sweet fucking Cthulhu, Chalo drew a guy getting pegged
ID: f2b53 No.13839
Jeez, Mora, overdue for your milking there?
Then again, apparently so is Taffy.
ID: f2b53 No.13852
Yep, there it is, the inevitable gratification bit where Miles really is amazing and it was Rachael's fault she didn't enjoy it before or some shit. Not even surprised.
ID: 724d8 No.13855
Seems more like he stepped up his game after the embarrassment from the first time. If anything the other time is inconsistent since the other times Miles has managed to at least competent. However he didn't do that well when he was with Mora but she seems like she has much higher standards and used to… more.
ID: f2b53 No.13863
>>13855>she has much higher standards
Yeah, so did Rachael once upon a time.
ID: 42745 No.13867
Honestly I hate those innies Chalo draw lately. And the weird goofy expressions
ID: f2b53 No.13868
You're right, Sarah's tits should just look like everyone else's increasingly samey tits with nothing unique about them at all.
And "lately"? The goofy, tone-deaf expressions have been pretty much a staple of his work for years now.
ID: 780ee No.13875
Well, that took no time at all, I'll be fucked. Also, ever hear of a little thing called 'sarcasm' before?
Jesus, ya'll people and this comic I swear…
ID: 780ee No.13876
Tigress… tum-tum… <3
ID: fa840 No.13879
>>13875>"I'll bet someone will complain, wink wink">complains to annoy you>"WOW I WAS RIGHT"
ID: 780ee No.13880
You're just proving their point further.
ID: fa840 No.13883
There are poster IDs here, dumbass.
ID: c2cc8 No.13886
Y'know, if everyone who made that "Hurr hurr it's not the same person there are lots of us" would actually use a consistent name and trip code instead of smugging about post IDs, maybe there would be less annoyance all around. If you're going to make a point of having a separate and unique identity, namefag it up or stop making that argument.
ID: fa840 No.13888
Not surprised that you would have a problem with it, since you've been "smugged" about it yourself on your own fucking website.
ID: f9ed8 No.13889
Is there any valid reason this fucker hasn't been banned after years of whining and bitching? Do the mods/admins here have some rule about not doing it?
I just don't understand why you continue to let him have a platform when literally nobody likes his ass.
ID: c2cc8 No.13891
You're literally babbling nonsense.>>13889
Don't look at me, I'd have banned the shit out of him and he'd have probably just whined about it on some other board before hopping on a proxy to come back here and whine about it some more, all the while sneering about how much he hates it here. I dunno how the current owner handles bans or if he even does anymore.
ID: fa840 No.13892
After all these years, you still assume that every dissenter is one guy and you STILL can't into IDs. You even want "them" to use a name and tripcode just so you don't have to think about it. It's pretty sad how much furry porn has fucked up your guys' brains.
ID: fa840 No.13893
And you still haven't commented on the samefagging that I pointed out here (>>13883). Hmm.
ID: c2cc8 No.13895
Out of curiosity, do you think you're such a bad person because no one loves you, or does no one love you because you're such a bad person?
Either way, tripfag or shut up.
ID: 40132 No.13897
Wow. Okay, yeah. Let's go THERE.
I'm not one of those people who's never happy and always finds reasons to complain about everything, because I have the common sense to keep my mouth shut. Especially when it comes to this comic.
But crap like this happens ALL. THE. TIME. And I'm just… I'm tired of it. I'm tired of you all being ugly to each other like this.
I've been reading Las Lindas for over 15 years, since I was in high school. I guess the same could be said of anyone who's reading this right now. I've never hated it. What I do hate is that it does THIS to people. That they would really go as far as to tell someone to kill themself.
Don't you have anything better to do?
I have two amazing friends that I love like the brothers I never had, and I don't know how my life would have turned out if I hadn't met them. And I have Las Lindas to thank for that.
Everyone I know, everyone I've made friends with as a result of reading Las Lindas has grown up. But you're all still the same whiny children who have to argue and fight with each other over a FUCKING COMIC just to feel good about yourselves.
And I feel sorry for you.
ID: fa840 No.13900
Lol now who's babbling nonsense? Go trip in a bog, you he/she.>>13897>making friends over furry porn>"grown up"
I had a furry friend when I was younger. He ended up raping his girlfriend and bragging on Twitter about sneaking onto some guy's ranch to molest his horses. He's not an isolated example either; you are all sexual degenerates, low-functioning scumbags, and you are right where you belong until the suicidal thoughts become impossible to ignore.
>inb4 why are you here then?
Sage/Sechs had another board my "friend" used to frequent, and you guys are cut from the same cloth. It's interesting to pop in every once in a blue moon to see if anything has changed. Sage has fucked off, and Sechs is the same bitch/bastard only without the banning privileges.
ID: 40132 No.13901
I'm a scumbag?
I just bared my soul where everybody can see it, and you assume that I and my best friends, who I would gladly die for if meant they would live, are godless wastes of oxygen and that nobody would miss us…
And I'M the one who's a scumbag?
This is exactly what I was talking about. This right here is a perfect example. So you go ahead and believe whatever you want.
Because now? After reading THAT? I wish I'd never heard of Las Lindas.
ID: f2b53 No.13903
Wow. Okay, shit like this you're spewing? You are doing ZERO favours for the people who criticize this comic, cause now the defenders are invariably going to paint us all as you and the putrid comments you've made here.
ID: 40132 No.13904
…And of course you think it's me, when I almost never post here.
ID: 40132 No.13905
Nvm. Misread that.
ID: f9ed8 No.13906
fucking wow, we got some vigilante troll here.
Im sure you are changing hearts and minds everywhere with such noble work.
ID: f9ed8 No.13907
So are you the fucker who made all those Better Days/Jay Naylor comic reviews way back when or the guy who was obsessed with the french mouse cartoon?
ID: fa840 No.13910
Neither, just an observer who wanted to understand the mindsets behind such degeneracy. The weakness, the mental gymnastics, and the infantilism of it all disgusts me, and the world would be better off if you were all dead.
ID: f9ed8 No.13912
How about you go first my dude?
That way you don't have to see the scwary furry porn and it's fans anymore.
ID: fa840 No.13914
Learn the difference between fear and disgust, and everyone's aversion to your types will make more sense. I could imagine being afraid of furries if I was a little kid, since I'd have crime statistics on the overlap between hedonistic sex addicts and pedophilia to back me up, but as an adult? Laughable, pitiable.
Yiff in hell furfags, you're already there.
ID: f9ed8 No.13916
You're fucking hilarious.
How is life going being an absolute joke?
ID: 780ee No.13917
It's going great, good thing I love humor, too bad you're not remotely funny. Seems to me you're just as nasty as the notion about furry fandom you have in your head, one guy you knew acts like a dick and suddenly it's everyone that acts that way?
You're the one with a screw or two loose buddy.
ID: f2b53 No.13918
You just responded to someone who was making fun of the exact same miserable fuck you think you're responding to.
Does NO ONE know how to read post IDs on this site?
ID: 6d0fa No.13919
How did you all even get to this point from Sarah's nipples?
ID: fa840 No.13920
ITT: everyone is allergic to poster IDs, including (and especially) the former admin. Sometimes the jokes just tell themselves.
Also:>>13917>"guy you know acts like a dick">rapist and animal abuser>"a dick"
Yeah, he was a bit of a jerk. And a doodoo brain.
ID: f2b53 No.13923
Fuck's sake, just cut the tired-ass "these two totally aren't gonna fuck" routine already.
ID: 6d0fa No.13924
Hope needs to get smashed, like right now. Honestly all three do
ID: c2cc8 No.13925
If anyone actually believes the whiny edgelord's story, I have this great concept for a TV show I'm crowdfunding, it's called "Everyone's Really Gay" and there's a tumblr post about it with a ton of notes!
ID: 9d8ee No.13926
Heheh, Drake doing that "sexy vision" thing. Made me chuckle. Joy just looks super annoyed with everyone for implying that something might happen (and tbh, I kind of want something to, but there has to be at least some 'build up' to it…)
ID: f2b53 No.13928
Well no, we didn't "know what they say", because this is literally the first we're ever hearing about this "Love Clan members have immense difficulty committing to one person" thing.
ID: c2cc8 No.13929
>>13927>it can be hard for some people
That's what she said.
ID: 6d0fa No.13931
>>13927>It's hard for Love Clan members to settle down.
And now that she's relevant, we're gonna see that in practice most likely.
ID: 84778 No.13936
Somebody seems rather upset
ID: f2b53 No.13952
I want to feel pleased that Mora's actually showing some improvement as a character, but there's this lingering feeling that someone will end up leaning on the end-of-arc status quo reset button again.
ID: f2b53 No.13965
Every single question for Rachael is gonna be about all the ways she aims to please Miles and wanting a look at all the sex they're having, aren't they?
ID: c2cc8 No.13967
I think the Asks are from patrons on one of Chalo's patreon accounts, and probably the people willing to donate to ask are Miles/Rachael shippers from the Katbox forums. So yeah, likelihood is high.
But also what else would you ask about her? "What the fuck were you thinking?" "Why the hell would you ever touch Miles?" "What's wrong with you?" Those don't make for very good illustrations and would just be offering an opportunity for the character/writer to sneer back.
I mean she's not really that interesting of a character, the way they've developed her. I think everything there is to ask about her that's likely to get an actual answer or non-Miles-related fanservice response has probably been asked.
ID: f2b53 No.13970
Come to think of it, after seeing someone ask Rachael a question that could lend to actual character building instead receive a One Punch Man reference as an answer, I can kinda see why people don't bother with those kinds of questions for anyone most of the time.
Also, isn't it really telling that all of this shit with her and Miles is constantly framed as her needing to adjust and work hard to pleasure her "perfect" boyfriend, without any actual thought given to what she might like or what she was previously known to be comfortable with or not, all while she devolves further as a character into Miles' impossibly naive, submissive, confidence-lacking waifu-chan and he yet again undergoes no actual change beyond suddenly being muscular?
ID: d9ce1 No.13971
She's not on your side, dude. Please stop talking.
ID: c2cc8 No.13972
I mean he's not wrong, but you're right in that I don't generally see much point in going on about it. (Which is part of why I made that other reply… pointing out the futility of getting upset about Rachael asks being Miles-oriented.)
The Rachael/Miles plotline is terrible. We've recounted all the ways in which it is terrible many times. We've gone over all the ways in which Miles is SoulKat's self insert and will thus be catered to in various ways many times. There's nothing new about it to say and no point in saying it, unless you just get satisfaction from complaining.
It's why the Naylor board ceased to exist… Jesus, a decade ago almost now? We all realized we'd said everything there was to say about Naylor and his crap comic, and we were all tired of listening to ourselves bitch about it, so we ditched it. Chalo, despite his various… let's be kind and call them "artistic quirks"… still has far more pleasant to look at art so at least there's still value in posting it, but really the endless repetitive nitpicking and snarling over the stories needs to stop. No one's saying anything new, no one's bringing any fresh thought or insight.
If you absolutely must complain, I can recommend a few forums full of similarly negative people who would probably love to tear the Katbox comics apart over and over and over again with you. Although you will run the risk of being doxed for being furries when you post there.
ID: 2ddc9 No.13983
Man if Chalo took time to brush up on some anatomy it would really elevate his art
ID: f2b53 No.13985
It's kinda weird, honestly, he always reblogs and retweets people's anatomy and perspective help guides, but then never seems to use them himself. That and there's the issue he has with keeping characters on-model, but that's not really something anyone else's guides are going to be of much help with.
ID: f9ed8 No.13996
They've done that 'HERE COMES MORA' line like 4 or 5 times now.
It's kind of lost its charm.
ID: f2b53 No.13997
Yeah, it lost its charm when it was used by Miles to emphasize his proud expectation for the world to change for him and then by Digit when chasing down Din and Jin.>>13995
Y'know, the sad thing is, this comic is so tone-deaf and desperately packed with panel-to-panel fanservice, and her tits have grown so comically huge, I could see that happening.
ID: 5f1b9 No.14000
I'm just here to say that the calico cat girl waitress is cute and I want to see more of her.
That is all.
ID: 97289 No.14001
And the bartender as well:)