ID: 283f6 No.1369[View All]
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It's been out on Steam for two days now, and still no thread about it? Let's fix that!!http://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/
People all around are losing their minds over how good the game is, and I can't help but agree. The inspiration from Mother/Earthbound games is quite present (somewhat goofy atmosphere with much darker elements hidden beneath, power of FRIENDSHIP conquers all, memorable NPCs, etc.), but the game has it's own twist to it.
Many players are still trying to find all the secrets, but if the hidden (and unfinished) Hard mode
is any indication, there is more to come with future updates.
As demo version led us to believe, the game branches into 3 different endings depending on how you treat the enemies: bad, neutral and good, true ending. Prepare to shed some tears at last one.
Oh and if you hated Flowey in the demo? Wait till you reveal his backstory. And your own character's, too.
In short; a fantastic, mindblowing game well worth 10$.
ID: 23822 No.1635
Wasn't Undertale built around an existing engine, actually? Or am I thinking of another indie game?
ID: 8c254 No.1650
If I recall correctly it was made in Game Maker Studio.
ID: e3f7f No.1683
Holy fucking shit that is almost
everything wrong with Tumblr distilled into image format.
ID: 4b64f No.1684
Funny (or horrifying?) thing is, I first thought that text was added in as some kind of mockery. Turns out the shit is legit as the gender descriptions are taken from the actual page.http://ask-humantale.tumblr.com/archive
Check further down the archive, races and gender descriptions are there.
ID: 20a4a No.1687
um>all those tumblr terms
Literally the only things in this that have any basis on canon are Frisk (and maybe Chara, I haven't finished my genocide run yet) being nonbinary, and Alphys and Undyne's sexuality. Hell, I'd probably put Alphys as lesbian and Undyne as bi.
ID: 3b30b No.1688
Other way around. Alphys has a crush on asgore as well as undyne.
ID: 6dd62 No.1689
Not to mention Frisk is still under ambiguous gender cause Toby did that on purpose. No real info pointing towards NB other than usual tumblr headcanon
ID: 127da No.1690
There was an interview where Toby intentionally skipped questions regarding the characters' gender and sexuality. I say, more power to him because the last thing we need is giving Tumblrinas more fuel for the fire.
ID: daacb No.1691
Frisk/Chara was left ambiguous because they represent the player. They are whatever you are.
ID: d2581 No.1692
You want to know the worst sin about this? Sans and Payprus don't look like Keenan & Kel. It would of made this whole fucking tire fire of a tale look like the cast of a Black All That.
ID: 85641 No.1693
I don't really get Tumblrinas' penchant for making every damn person they can get their hands on trans.
ID: 127da No.1694
Desperate attempt to make their bullshit seem like it's the norm, while making what's currently norm "abnormal" or "undesirable".
Like above being pointed out, how the only characters in that pic who were made white are a genocidal kid and a king who murdered children to obtain their souls.
Another ridiculous thing about those gender/orientation titles slapped on is that some of them don't even make fucking sense ("lithoromantic", so does that mean they're in love with rocks???), others are existing sexual orientations given some fancy-schmancy/unique sounding names for special snowflake factor.
As Mobius pointed out; it's like that entire blog is basically everything that's wrong about Tumblr's "progressive, white-guilt" group compressed into one account.
ID: 20a4a No.1695
My bad I guess, I just kinda went with nonbinary meaning no gender/ambiguous/whatever.
ID: 2c46f No.1696
"Way to shit on and try to silence creators for not sharing your views and tastes."
ID: 2aa0a No.1699
Except what we're dealing with here is someone who refuses to accept the work of another for what it is. That's strike one.
Strike two is making everyone's sexuality as the focus here. Here is the centerpiece of this artist's work and it's stupid as hell because it's NOT WHAT MADE THESE CHARACTERS SO MEMORABLE
. The artist believes putting the spotlight on what gives the males a raging boner is a good thing, but it's cliché and gives them the personality of dirt.
And for strike three: making (almost) everybody black. Aside from the not-so-subtle racism previously pointed out, one could argue making everybody the same race is the biggest slap in the face to Toby here because there are few identical groups of monsters in Undertale. There was a whole lot of species diversity and this artist just threw up on that aspect of the game. I'm not saying that all creative works should include their version of the Burger King Kids Club til the end of days but presenting a diverse cast can be done well and not just limited to race.
ID: 371e6 No.1700
SJWs never could cope with the fact that the rest of the world does not share their insane, narrow-minded beliefs when it comes to "identity politics" and "progresiveness". To them, it's almost like religion; if you do not identify as astrosexual demigender polyromantic transman and do not shout about progressiveness and tollerance-while treating white people with contempt and hatred just because they're not of the race you approve-which is pretty much the radical extremism of social justice; then you are not truly fighting for social justice.
It's the same when an author/creator of something they like does not share their ideals; they will attempt to coopt the creation from the creator and slap their own labels onto it out, while villifying the creator.
Remember the Zamii incident? Before it, SJWs hailed Rebecca Sugar and Ian J.Q. as champions of progressiveness on television. As soon as the two spoke out against SJWs bullying Zamii into suicide over fucking fanart, they began calling them pedophiles and rape enablers. All because Rebecca and Ian did not conform to their insane, fascist worldview.
Less extreme example is happening here with Humantale: the author clearly disliked the fact that TobyFox made a progressive game without pandering to SJWs, so they took what he made and started putting labels on it to conform to their own ideas.
ID: 22826 No.1706
This one's even better what with how they get super defensive.
I asked them just a moment ago about Asgore and Chara, only two characters who did vile shit in the game, being the only characters who represent white race. Let's see what happens.
ID: a956c No.1708
Y'know, part of me wants to say it's cool they're trying to create something that appeals to them, and personally I have absolutely no qualms with someone building a creative universe of trans, non-binary, whatever-the-hell-they-want types. That's fine, I do it too.
But why is it necessary to modify Undertale to do it? Why make great sweeping, seemingly arbitrary changes, many of which openly conflict with the established background instead of make your own setting or characters? It smacks of laziness or even worse baiting, like they knew full well people would take offense or challenge the idea and those people could be used an easy platform by simply saying 'if you don't like what I did, you're against the represented group at large and therefore a horrible person
, fuck off'.
And to that very idea, I take offense. I'm not offended that this thing exists, I couldn't care less. I'm offended that it's another round of tumblr-bait.
So…in short, fuck 'em, I've got better things to do.
ID: 1cbcc No.1709
I get the thing about Frisk/Chara being non-binary; that was Toby's intent since he wanted a character whose gender can be decided on by the player. But then she goes on and claims that all
of the characters are non-binary/trans canonically
just because she says so…this kid is really delusional.
ID: 2aa0a No.1710
I think at this point we should just abandon this person and wait for the inevitable breakdown.
ID: 97b0f No.1712
Frisk isn't even canon non-binary, Toby specifically said Frisk has absolutely NO canon sex or gender identity of any kind–nor race or specific age–because they're meant to be whatever the player is.
ID: 20a4a No.1713
Things I'm okay with: headcanons
Things I'm not okay with: MY HEADCANON IS HOW THINGS ARE AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS RACIST/TRANSPHOBIC/HOMOPHOBIC/WHATEVER
ID: 417dc No.1714
That's the issue I have with this girl's bullshit; apparently just because it's not been outright mentioned in the game that the characters are cis, that somehow means they are canonically trans.
ID: 97b0f No.1715
Funny how that works, isn't it? If a character doesn't go out of their way to say "By the way, did I mention how cis I am today?", they're not cis. But if a character never outright says they're trans, they're still trans. And even if a character DOES outright say they're cis, like Chihiro Fujisaki, they're STILL not cis. And when a character is stated in canon to be trans, they still somehow don't count as representation because reasons–in the special case of Grell Sutcliff, she can't possibly be anything but a flamboyant gay man because the other characters in the 1880s London setting of Black Butler don't understand her, think she's just crazy and address her with male pronouns.
Don't even get me started on how they think there are shitloads of transsexual children and BABIES roaming about, their go-to justification when someone points out "We've seen *insert cis character here* as a child and they were the same sex they are now."
ID: 952c5 No.1716
>And when a character is stated in canon to be trans, they still somehow don't count as representation because reasons
Exactly! It's absolutely impossible to please these types of people.
I remember when the whole drama around Gashi Gashi's pic of Crystal Gems blew up, some woman was complaining how superhero genre was "oversaturated by white characters" and that there's not a single black superhero to be seen. I immediately rebuked the claim and mentioned that there's a great number of black superheroes, some of which are quite popular and liked. She called bullshit and demanded that I give her examples, and when I did not only that, but gave her a huge list of black superheroes, she immediately pulled the "but it's nowhere near enough characters!" card, and ended her argument there. It's fucking bullshit.
ID: 2aa0a No.1717
Undertale got updated today and there's apparently a bunch of stuff added to it. People are still looking through at the moment.
ID: 97b0f No.1720
So wait, if the piano puzzle now leads you to an entirely new thing, does this mean no more Annoying Dog absorbing the treasure gag?
ID: ee8dc No.1725
So apparently after enough negative reactions, the girl behind that blog decided to quietly close it down. As in, she never made a peep about it on her main Tumblr blog.
I say, good fucking riddance to that garbage.
ID: bcec5 No.1729
>>1728>Alphys mentions there's no weather underground>The wolf in Snowdin is throwing artificially made ice cubes>It never really did snow
ID: 7b5c8 No.1731
No weather doesn't necessarily mean there can't be a climate or some constant environmental state that causes snow to form or some artificial way to convert water into snow. But really, there's a shitton on contradictions and inconsistencies throughout the game when you really stop and think about it, so what's one more?
ID: 3615b No.1759
Nothing like actually playing the game after so long, and than re-reading this thread again to actually get the other half of the stuff I couldn't comprehend without a reference required.
ID: 23da5 No.1842
Holy shit! The Toriel plush sold by Fangamer has a white SOUL heart inside of it.
The discovery is here: http://nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/146271627269/we-heard-a-rumor-that-there-might-be-more-to
ID: 3615b No.1843
That is both endearing and disturbing. Just like the game, really.
ID: 1e88e No.1886
Toby just posted unused songs: http://undertale.tumblr.com/
ID: 9aa0c No.2010
List of trophies for the PlayStation version:https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/6487-undertale
ID: 9aa0c No.2011
For your viewing pleasure, the lone exclusive addition to the PlayStation version.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R_qAmDrvgk
Let's just say the annoying dog is involved for this one.