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ID: 1970a  No.794[View All]

Quick recap: shit is going down between Hideo Kojima and Konami that's causing the latter to remove any branding that mentions the former on anything related to Metal Gear Solid V, going so far as to suspend a weekly podcast produced by Kojima Productions.

Today, the same happened again, only this time with the Silent Hills/P.T. website: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/silent-hills-pt-website-removes-kojima-productions/1100-6426298/
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ID: 3d923  No.1440


ID: 94813  No.1441

>>1440

… You don't know what a ROM is and didn't actually read the comments, did you?

ID: 9a739  No.1444

>>1441
I've reread things since it was marked as somewhat misleading but is it not a ROM hack if The Phantom Pain developers modified the game?

ID: 28d7b  No.1465


ID: 388e3  No.1466

>>1465

Doesn't surprise me but I am still gonna say this:

Fuck you, Konami.

ID: 28d7b  No.1467

And now they've announced MGSV FOB Insurance.

By paying just a few Real World Dollars, you ensure your base can't be destroyed or damaged! Even if another player in the FOB multiplayer mode attacks and leaves with lewts, it's just spawned out of the ether; you lose nothing. People killed? Get compensated! Essentially for cash, you get god mode for as long as you can keep payin' the premiums.

Even Kotaku balked at the very idea, calling it an extortion racket.

ID: 0cc8f  No.1468

>>1467

I guess with no further plans with the gaming industry, they are just going balls out with the reputation loss just for a few more bucks before going into the Pachinko Dawn.

I wonder how the Japanese gamers (or the ones who reside in Japan anyways) are taking this sudden turn of business. I doubt they' turn their gaming hobby into a gambling hobby/addiction over it but I also wonder if their shit is getting as easily flipped over this as ours is.

ID: 94813  No.1470

>>1467
>>1468

It's interesting how everyone assumes this was 100% Capcom and 0% Kojima.

I mean I allow that may be true, but it's not like it'd be the first time Kojima's "sold out" if it wasn't.

I just wonder how much of this is the gamer community's trend of "The company I hate is responsible for all evils in this world, but the guy I like is innocent and flawless and loves me. Me, personally."

If I were all of you I'd give serious consideration to the idea that it was probably actually Kojima's initiative to release the glorified demo that was Ground Zeroes, and that he's thus not exactly immune from money-grubbing ideas.

ID: 0cc8f  No.1471

>>1470

If he were the culprit for such a decision I wouldn't be surprised. But he's not calling the shots on the game at this point as far as I'm aware. He stayed around for the completion of the game didn't he? Pretty sure his contract will end soon, if it hasn't already.

ID: 850fb  No.1475

>>1471

You don't think this was all planned during production, tho?

I mean I kinda doubt they went "I know! Insurance!" and then made it happen in a week.

Most stuff like this is slotted into a framework put in place during main programming, not kludged in after.

ID: 0cc8f  No.1484

>>1475

It was probably put in after the falling out happened, when it became abundantly clear his role in this company was FUBAR. Before then, I doubt he would of made such a decision, even if it were his last part of the series. His reputation (and by proxy Konami's) would be in jeopardy in that scenario.

It's Konami who followed through with it, not him. It's all business in the company's future now. And as far as the masses are concerned, that's all that matters.

ID: 1970a  No.1539


ID: f7cf9  No.1558

>>1539
The man will be able to go to sony or any other company and just get a blank check to make games

hell, a bidding war for him has probably already broken out - I'm sure EA would love to hire him on

ID: 0f99e  No.1636

In other news, fuck Konami. https://youtu.be/n4VAzkK_Wmc

tl;dw MGSV won awards at The Game Awards show, but Konami essentially told Kojima that he wouldn't be allowed to attend to accept the award.

ID: 83ab0  No.1637

>>1636
Not only this, apparently they've been instructing interviewers to not mention Kojima by name.

At this point, he's like their personal boogieman or something to be ashamed of, and it seems like they're trying to take credit for all his work.

ID: 4008b  No.1638

>>1637

Further proof of how passive-agressive Japanese corporate executives can be when one of their "slaves" bites their hand.

ID: 35731  No.1639

>>1636
Seriously, Konami can fuck off.

But good on Geoff for calling out on their bullshit.

ID: e61d9  No.1643

>>1639

Heard some stories that Konami's representative was pissed at him for spilling the beans.

I say; good. Let everyone know what bunch of scumbags runs that company.

ID: 1970a  No.1673

http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/15/10220372/hideo-kojima-new-studio-leaves-konami

Kojima has reportedly left escaped Konami the bastion of hatred and is in talks with Sony.

ID: 1970a  No.1677

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>>1673
It's official: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=annuTcmB1rw

A kinda lengthy Q&A about the terms of the agreement between Sony and Kojima Productions (at least what they're willing to disclose publicly):

https://medium.com/@PadPoet/sony-computer-entertainment-enters-into-an-agreement-with-kojima-productions-1490ebd29c45#.n6ke1f9ph

Their first game is a PS4 timed exclusive and is coming to PC later.

And from Kojima Productions' new site is this badass message:

>We are Homo Ludens(Those who play).

>From the moment we enter this world, we instinctively invent ways to have "fun", and share our inventions with those around us. We are not asked to do this, nor do we need reasons to create. It is simply who we are.
We find one another and compete with one another. We laugh together and cry together all while playing together. Our experiences bind us and liberate us. To share our most valuable experiences, we create stories, invent tools, and evolve the art of play. Play has been our ally since the dawn of civilization.
>"Playing" is not simply a pastime, it is the primordial basis of imagination and creation. Truth be told, Homo Ludens(Those who Play) are simultaneously Homo Faber(Those who Create).
>Even if the earth were stripped of life and reduced to a barren wasteland, our imagination and de to create would survive beyond survival, it would provide hope that flowers may one day bloom again. Through the invention of play, our new evolution awaits.
>KOJIMA PRODUCTIONS We are Homo Ludens. We are those who play.
>小島 秀夫
>Hideo Kojima

ID: 14aa0  No.1678

The logo looks badass.

ID: 35766  No.1701

>>1677

That whole message comes across as really pretentious, imo. Good for him for leaving to do his own thing though.

ID: 35731  No.1703

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https://twitter.com/HIDEO__KOJIMA_/status/686036141955518464

>Sippin' on Konami tears


Well played Kojima.

ID: 1970a  No.1704

>>1703
That's a parody account. This is his twitter: https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN

ID: 5a7b3  No.1831

Those absolute fucking madmen did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVSRjJL1bv8

Needless to say, this trailer has caused quite a lot of outrage from MGS fans.
Konami proceeded to laugh and fill their pockets with money from pachinkos.

ID: 5a7b3  No.1832

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ID: b3dbb  No.1833

>>1831

Did they actually make that? It couldn't get any more blatant in trolling than that trailer.

I'm not sure if they are trying to take a stab at Kojima or the fans themselves. Probably both, but still.

ID: 3314d  No.1834


ID: 850fb  No.1835

>>1833

Kojima trolls them, he gets internet acclaim.

They troll Kojima, they get money.

Now I'm not a scientist but someone came out on top there.

ID: 68099  No.1836

>>1835

Their plan has backfired a little–the casino law Konami was hedging bets on (as it would have legalized pachinko gambling) looks like it hit the skids after some of the ministers involved got snagged bribing voters. Support's waned hard.

ID: 403cc  No.1837

>>1836

So if the law that would legalize pachinko gambling fails to come to fruition, it would essentially mean that Konami shot themselves in the foot.

Wait, let me rephrase that. It would mean that Konami literally blew off both of their legs with a rocket launcher.

ID: 403cc  No.1838

>>1836

Also, I'd like a source on that claim, it sounds too good to be true.

ID: 9c1c5  No.1873

And now, for some reason, Metal Gear Survive.

https://youtu.be/X3hjRKGrC40

ID: 0a865  No.1874

>>1873
Yep, looks like they're miraculously back to game development after Japan's gambling law tanked, trying to "win back consumers' trust."

ID: b3dbb  No.1876

>>1874

I'm STILL trying to find articles that talk about the ongoing developments and failures of this law they are literally gambling on to legalize gambling. Most I got is superbunnyhop and that's it.

ID: 38840  No.1877

>>1873
>"We gotta make this series SURVIVE without Kojima"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X944SxwP61w

ID: bb6cd  No.1878

So fuck espionage, fuck real world problems, fuck even involving the characters the game is known for…

Let's just add zombies. Everyone likes zombies, right?

It's a washed-out, real-is-brown Left 4 Dead knockoff, and Konami (naturally, because Konami is Konami) didn't get the memo that not even Call Of Duty is trying to look like the second act of Black Hawk Down anymore.

So yeah, an obligatory #fuckonami here.

ID: 850fb  No.1879

In all fairness, while "[Series] with zombies" is a ridiculously overused premise, I'd say the series has long since deviated from anything that could be credibly called "real world problems" under Kojima already.

ID: 38840  No.1880

>>1879
so anything coming after MGS4

ID: b7963  No.1882

>>1880
MGS2 and 3 were only BARELY Grounded in reality

ID: 38840  No.1883

>>1882
yes, but 2 and 3 was fine, it was MSG4 where the training wheels was kicked off

ID: 54fb0  No.1885

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>>1883
And let's not forget the other important thing.

ID: f2cd1  No.1959

http://archive.is/6KMuw

Anyone working for Konami needs to abandon the fucking ship if they haven't already.

ID: 660f5  No.1961


ID: d9405  No.1962

>>1961
Burn Konami to the fucking ground.

ID: 0a865  No.1963

>>1961
It gets better. A major health insurance group that offers plans to IT workers in Japan is continuously rejecting coverage for Kojima's new company. The group states that any new company has to be approved by the group's chairman. Said chairman is a director at Konami and many of Konami's gyms and health clubs are members of this health insurance group.

So feel free to never buy a single product from Konami again.

ID: d9405  No.1964

>>1963
Holy fuck, that's twisted.

The fuck does Konami have against Kojima in particular? Christ, Capcom's treatment of Mega Man after Inafune's departure is nothing compared to this shit, at least they've never actively tried to ruin the careers and lives of Inafune and everyone who doesn't pretend he and his work never fucking existed!

ID: 660f5  No.1965

>>1964
Badmouthing one's employer is atypical in Japan, where absolute loyalty to one's company is more or less expected. That alone makes the situation unusual, but it doesn't help that the Metal Gear series was almost certainly Konami's biggest moneymaker (their next-biggest property is what, Castlevania? Gradius?), and losing Kojima has probably done a lot of damage to their bottom line. There's also their aborted foray into the pachinko arena, which got sidelined by Japanese legislators having a sudden attack of conscience, so as a result of all these things, it looks like Konami just threw up their hands and said "fuck Kojima forever."

ID: d9405  No.1967

>>1965
Weren't they the ones who stupidly decided they were letting him go as soon as MGS5 was complete?

And it makes me wonder, why haven't they also gone after Koji Igarashi and all the other big Castlevania players who left them?

ID: f2cd1  No.1968

>>1967
Since Iga was working on mobile games before leaving, I'm guessing he was more subservient. He did try to create some solid content but he was rebuffed on everything he tried to make. This was also before all the fallout happened so whomever is raising a stink probably wasn't around then.



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