ID: b216c No.184[Last 50 Posts]
Startin’ this thread with the trailer for Marvel’s first Netflix-exclusive series, Daredevil
ID: 6995e No.186
They're gonna expand their universe of superheroes through these lesser productions so they have a bigger population for Civil War, which I also think may be fueled by the new comic continuity depending on how those line up with the films.
I think it's worth noting that Avengers 2 is supposed to set up a new Avengers team. We already know Carol Danvers is going to replace Hulk.
ID: b216c No.187
>Only hint of "blindsight" is doing a weird shimmery effect at the edges of the screen, once
Ben Affleck : Hollywood budget :: Charlie Cox : Netflix budget
>Costume is a spandex sports top and a pair of pantyhose
All those shots likely come from the first couple of episodes. I doubt Marvel would do a Daredevil
show without him eventually showing up in the full red suit.>>186
Eh, I wouldn't bet on Daredevil, Iron Fist, et al
showing up in Civil War
. Marvel won’t have finished all the shows by then; they just cast Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, and the next series to be filmed is supposedly AKA Jessica Jones
Black Panther’s supposed to have a significant role in Civil War
ahead of his debut film, though.
ID: fbbfd No.188
>>187>Charlie Cox : Netflix budget
Calling bullshit on that one. I watched Marco Polo
, shit looked like it had a bigger budget than Game of Thrones
You're telling me for their first collaboration with Marvel they couldn't find the money to portray one of the most defining aspects of the character?
ID: b216c No.189
>You're telling me for their first collaboration with Marvel they couldn't find the money to portray one of the most defining aspects of the character?
Maybe they just have a different way of portraying it than the Affleck film. Maybe they're still working on it before the show's premiere and want to make sure it looks as good as possible.
If that is the extent of what they're doing with the blindsight, I'll agree with you—but we don’t know for sure if that’s how far they’re going with it, so I’m inclined to reserve final judgment about the effect until the series shows up.
ID: c22f3 No.190
I hate to disagree, but I think that a lower budget effect fits for Heroes for Hire/Defenders/Marvel Knights/whatever this Netflix venture ends up being.
My ideal representation of the sonar would be everything being totally black with areas becoming clearer as motion and sound is made around them.
ID: 43b07 No.191
>>190>I hate to disagree, but I think that a lower budget effect fits for Heroes for Hire/Defenders/Marvel Knights/whatever this Netflix venture ends up being.
… Forgettable entires that will never, ever become part of the larger MCU and are thus totally irrelevant?
ID: c22f3 No.192
Maybe, Maybe not. I'll keep an open mind about it.
ID: fbbfd No.193
Well I mean I'm still gonna check it out. It's Netflix so it's not like I have to worry about catching it live or messing with On Demand, and you won't have to wait a month to watch four episodes and find out if it's any good.
I mean unless it's really shit I'll probably watch the whole season. I'm just getting a lot of red flags, here.
ID: 6995e No.210
Not to rain on the Spider-Man parade, but I am kind of annoyed that it's pushing back Thor, Black Panther, and Captain Marvel.
ID: b216c No.211
I’m pissed about it, too, but if Feige can convince the Civil War
scriptwriters to put the ‘No, you move’ speech into that film, my anger will be lessened like goddamn.
ID: b216c No.212
Oh, and Miles Morales for MCU!Spidey, please.
ID: d6a65 No.213
So wait… is it the same version of Spider-Man Sony's currently using, or is it a new Spider-Man specifically for the Marvel movies? Because the article has stuff that could be read either way.
If it's the Sony version in the MCU then I don't fucking want him.
ID: 5bf2b No.214
New version. The stuff I've read recently suggests that the characterization of Spidey has been a sticking point in the negotiations up to this point, with Marvel pushing hard for a new actor in the role after the dismal performance of Amazing Spider-Man 2. (Word is that Amazing 2 bombing is what provides much of the incentive for the deal in the first place, as up to that point, Spidey had been guaranteed box office gold for Sony.)
I'm guessing we'll see some kind of cameo in Captain America: Civil War, followed by a full blown Spidey reboot the next year.
ID: b216c No.215
>As part of the revamp, the new Spider-Man will first appear in a Marvel film. The companies are not revealing details but that movie is likely to be Captain America: Civil War; the character was a major player in the comics storyline. Andrew Garfield is not expected to reprise the character.
>Once the character is re-launched, Sony will then release a new Spider-Man movie on July 28, 2017. Marvel’s Kevin Feige will join Amy Pascal as a producer on the new movie. The duo will “collaborate on a new creative direction for the web slinger,” according to the companies. Ari Arad and Matt Tolmach, who were producers on the previous movie, will now executive produce.
>There is also talk of looking for ways to integrate characters from the Marvel Cinematic Universe, as the Marvel movies are known, into future Spider-Man films.
>Sony, however, will retain the final creative control and continue to finance, distribute, own the new movies.
ID: b216c No.216
Something that hit my head just after I posted this: future Spidey films would be the perfect place for The Defenders (Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones) to show up.
ID: 6e9a3 No.217
Well that's a relief, at least.>>212>Oh, and Miles Morales for MCU!Spidey, please.
By the time the movie comes out, they'll have already killed Peter Parker off so Miles can take his place twice
. Can Peter at least please live in the movies? Is that too much to ask, that in at least some
universe he's not sacrificed on the Altar of Diversity?
ID: c22f3 No.218
I freaking hated the civil war, and it just got worse the longer it went on.
I can only pray that it doesn't reach the same "Interment was the right thing to do" conclusion as they did in the comics.
ID: b216c No.219
dealt with accountability in regards to superhero secret identities, whereas movie!Civil War
will deal with who the superheroes are accountable to (since there are virtually no secret identities in the MCU).
Differences will exist between the two no matter how the movie ends or how big a role Spider-Man will have in the film.
ID: c22f3 No.220
As long as they don't do the part where they round up superpowered individuals in "training camps" and make it look like a good thing.
ID: fbbfd No.221
I doubt it, it's not like the MCU is flooded with powered people like 616 is.
Superpowers seem more genetically selected for than homosexuality in the comics.
ID: b216c No.222
Isn't that the whole basis for Inhumans?
ID: c22f3 No.223
Yeah, but on Agents of SHIELD, they do mention having a "List" of the names and locations of known superhumans.
Maybe Shield will come in and TAKE AUR SUPERPOWERS! and it will be a second amendment allegory.
ID: b216c No.224
As of Winter Soldier
, the MCU only has a duo of superpowered individuals—Cap and Hulk—who make their residence on Earth. Iron Man counts as a ‘superhero’ (albeit one without superpowers), so toss him in for three. Leap forward into Age of Ultron
and you can add Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to the list. Black Panther and Spider-Man (assuming they both show up in Civil War
) would put the number at seven known superhumans/superheroes in the world by the time the ‘Civil War’ goes down. If you’re willing to count Ant-Man, we get to eight. The number would hit well over a dozen if you tack on any superhumans shown in Agents of SHIELD
(who aren’t dead by the time of Civil War
). There’s also Daredevil and (depending on when their shows are filmed/premiered) the power couple of Luke Cage and Jessica Jones.
At most, you’d have maybe
two dozen superhumans running around the MCU by the time of Civil War
. Barring a mass reveal of Inhumans well ahead of…well, Inhumans
(and Infinity War
), you won’t have to worry about the scene you’re worried about happening in Civil War
ID: 6995e No.225
I still don't think they're going to follow the comic book version. The only part I see them really using is Iron Man vs Captain America. Why they're fighting is what will be the movie and a hero registration act is doubtful to be the reason. Not enough heroes and the heroes are largely known people to begin with. Very few secret identities.
It'd actually be really awful if it became a fight over the affection of Peter Parker alone.
I still stand by the central conflict being over Wakanda given Ultron getting all his vibranium from there in AoU.
ID: b216c No.226
The central conflict will be between Captain America and Iron Man over what happened in Age of Ultron
and Tony’s desire to make sure something like Ultron (which he had a major hand in designing) never happens again.
It could mean Cap’s worried about answering to a central body of power—understandable given the SHIELD/Hydra ‘problem’—while Tony wants superpowered people or people with access to things like the Iron Man suit or mass amounts of Vibranium must answer to, say, the United Nations. At this point, alls we know is Cap and Iron Man will stay on their respective sides of the Civil War, while Black Panther (and now assumedly Spider-Man) will have a role to play in the conflict.
ID: 6995e No.229
Well the teaser clip they used when promoting Civil War at their movie reveals had the one line about Tony Stark wanting to end conflicts before they begin and Steve Rogers saying that that is the excuse of every tyrant the world has known.
So they're not going to stray from the supremely powerful authority vs individual liberty.
But they also introduced the actor for Black Panther as saying "I'm on my own side." Which puts Wakanda in the middle of this conflict in which neither Cap nor Iron Man necessarily have Wakanda's best interests truly in mind or something of that manner.
I'm not sure we're totally disagreeing either. It just won't be the comic.
ID: fbbfd No.231
On a side note, imagine if you will:
Deadpool and Joker in a competition for the affections of image related.
ID: 6995e No.233
Would Joker count as a clown?
This is important given Deadpool's stance on the threat of clowns to the world.
ID: f9ede No.234
"Clown Prince of Crime" is like one of his primary titles, so.
ID: 6995e No.235
Yeah, I wasn't really thinking that through.
But still, Deadpool is pretty nuts about exterminating clowns. That could be really ugly.
ID: 7564c No.236
Her design didn't really click with me when I saw the trailer but that image is smoking fucking hot
ID: 6995e No.238
Just as long as they don't do to Cap what DC did to Superman.
To answer a little question that was proposed about what the government would do.. I think The Incredibles actually had probably the best description of what would happen. Lawsuits. Lawsuits everywhere!
ID: 62d44 No.243
Huh. Whedon actually de-powered
Ultron somewhat for Age of Ultron
>The powers in comic books – they’re always like, ‘And then I can reverse the polarity of your ions!’ – well, we have to ground things a lot more. With Ultron, we have to make him slightly less omnipotent because he’d win. Bottom line. Also, having weaknesses and needs and foibles and alliances and actually caring what people think of him, all these things, are what make him a character and not just a tidal wave. A movie about a tidal wave can be great, but it’s different than a conflict between one side and the other. When Ultron speaks, he has a point. He is really not on top of the fact that the point he’s making has nothing to do with the fact that he’s banoonoos. And that he hates the Avengers for bringing him into this world, and he can’t really articulate that or even understand how much he hates humanity. He thinks he’s all that. That guy is very fun to write. He combines all the iconic stuff. The powers he has are slightly different – he can control certain things, he’s not just firing repulsors.
ID: 6995e No.245
Not surprising. They've actually kind of de-powered everyone to a certain extent.
ID: 45ce6 No.271
It’s here. The final trailer for Age of Ultron
ID: d8d43 No.283
For a second I was gonna be like "For Christ's sake, Marie, they're mutants!", but then I realized, wrong bald fat white guy.
ID: 45ce6 No.284
…okay yeah, I can buy him as Kingpin.
ID: 0b78c No.285
He COULD stand to do a little work on his arms, but that may just be an unflattering cut of his jacket.
ID: 0b78c No.295
I don't know who they got to play Foggy, but he's perfect.
ID: fbbfd No.310
I wonder if the mask eyepieces are digital markers so they can make 'em change shape.
ID: 8feb4 No.311
Yeah, I’m thinking they’ll CGI the eyepieces to make them expressive (as was likely done for that pic).
Now to hope that the movie lives up to the awesome costume.
ID: 8feb4 No.313
In good-ish Deadpool news, this tweet from Ryan Reynolds:
>"@DPklok051: Is it going to be rated R or PG-13?" I want #Deadpool to be R. Always have. Fighting the good fight still. Lotta yelling today.
ID: c3443 No.314
If Disney's behind the movie, forget the R rating.
It's gonna suck for Deadpool.
ID: 60efb No.315
……But Disney's not behind it, Fox is.
ID: 8feb4 No.316
Well, according to this video…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUEkqZxLyrg
…and this tweet…https://twitter.com/VancityReynolds/status/583379769321881600
will have the R rating. Then again, this is April Fool’s Day, so take this with a grain of salt. (Cool to see the Deadpool suit in motion, though.)
ID: 40598 No.317
Keep in mind that earlier in the day Ryan tweeted these two tweets.https://twitter.com/VancityReynolds/status/583270751525957633https://twitter.com/VancityReynolds/status/583312757275013120
Considering the tweets were put out quite a bit before the video, the April Fool's joke was the PG-13 rating of the film. They're legitimately going for a R on this.
ID: 8feb4 No.318
Fox has confirmed that Deadpool will have an R rating, BTW.
ID: 28258 No.325
hey…at least wolverine is somewhere in there
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Behind the spoiler tag lies your look at the ‘proper’ Daredevil suit from the Netflix show (which drops in full at midnight tonight). Via Badass Digest:
>I have not seen the show yet but I have now spoken to a lot of people who have, and the consensus: first few episodes are pretty bad, it lays on the heavy violence a little thick (sure to appeal to Nolan Batfans), but it seems to pick up four or five hours in. Nobody has seen past episode five, so maybe once the momentum kicks in the show just rockets through to the ending… and the reveal of this […] costume.
>It's interesting how much the costume calls to mind the terrible, widely-disliked armored Daredevil look from the 90s. I feel like Daredevil is, like Spider-Man, simply supposed to be streamlined-looking. That was a big problem with the 90s costume, and it's a big problem with this too-busy, sorta silly Netflix costume.
ID: 0b78c No.328
Huh. I kind of like the kevlar-ish look to it.
ID: 90d7e No.329
It's amazing how exactly he manages to look like a cross between Affleck's Daredevil and Arrow.
ID: 6995e No.330
The suit was the best thing about Affleck's Daredevil.
This is pretty nice. Can he at least shave though?
ID: fbbfd No.331
>>330>Can he at least shave though?
But how will you know he is a Tough, Grounded Anti-Hero if he doesn't look like he lost his razor two days ago?
ID: 6151d No.332
Daredevil drinking game:
Every time Daredevil breaks someone's arm, take a drink.
ID: 6995e No.333
I forgot about that. Can't confuse anyone.
ID: c6e52 No.353
In non-MCU news, the first real trailer for the Fantastic Four
reboot dropped this past weekend…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRoD28-WgU
…and holy shit
it sucks. Not only does it tell us we have to deal with another
goddamn "origin story" comic book movie, but it feels so fucking generic and paint-by-numbers. Nothing about this trailer makes me want to ever see this movie. If this shit doesn’t bomb hard (at least in the States), I'll be legitimately shocked.
ID: fc74f No.368
It seems 630 smaller cinemas in Germany will not be showing Avengers; Age of Ultron due to Disney's policy that demands 53% of the ticket revenue from all cinemas worldwide, regardless of how good or bad the sales went.
Dick move, Disney.
ID: 453d2 No.371
Just finished episode 9 of DD. I'm glad they aren't shying away frome daredevil's more silly elements
How gritty can you expect to be when you have bright red ninja yakuza
ID: c6e52 No.372
Not live-action, but shit, I’mma mention it here anyway: The writer/director team of Phil Lord and Chris Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Lord_and_Christopher_Miller
) are gonna helm an animated Spider-Man film scheduled for July 2018.
ID: 26b1a No.373
>New potential casting list for Peter Parker announced
>Surprise and shock, the character that has always been white is going to be played by a white actor
>Tumblr promptly shits itself and begins making demands for the genocide of every light-skinned person on the planet
ID: c6e52 No.374
Eh, if they’re gonna go with Peter, I don’t see much of an issue with him being white. T’was hoping for Miles Morales, but I suppose that was always gonna be a pipe dream.
Tumblrinas need to get their shit together, though.
has been out long enough for people to have watched it all. What did y’all think of it?
ID: edd99 No.375
Link to this outrage?
ID: 289c0 No.376
Heck, let's take a little tour, shall we?http://inspirationcocoa.tumblr.com/post/117186744929/
>today for the role of peter parker we will be auditioning: mayo, milk and string cheese http://sourwolvesandkeyblades.tumblr.com/post/117184120677/
>^^^can we make up a black cast list and send that shit to marble? Like, I don’t even know these whites.http://easchechter.tumblr.com/post/117182025605/
>Beige. We’ll paint the superhero beige.
And from one of the comments above
>They all look the same…
I'll leave you to look around the comments for more. These are some of the milder examples. But yeah, it's more "White people are evil and shit and casting them in anything is racist" BS from these fucks.
ID: 0b78c No.377
I just finished episode nine. I do one or two a night
ID: edd99 No.378
>shitting because they want to cast a white guy as Peter Parker>not knowing there's already a black dude Spider-Man, Miles fucking Morales
Then again I am expecting from Tumblrina SJWs to know a single goddamn thing about comics. That's expecting too much from them.
ID: 289c0 No.379
Oh, they're going on about him too. Well, some of them are. They're DEMANDING Miles, they're ENTITLED to Miles, it's RACIST that they're not getting Miles, DEATH to Mayo Parker, etc.
ID: 6995e No.380
Is that image to the tune of "Mad World?"
ID: fbbfd No.381
I guess it's not appropriating to take a song by a white guy and make it about hating white people.
ID: 7564c No.382
I'm admittedly surprised that Marvel went for Parker again instead of opting for Miles. It would set their incarnation of Spidey well apart from what Sony has been
producing and let them tie in closer to the goings-on in the comics (where they're basically setting the Ultimate universe on fire so they can bring Morales into Earth-616).
ID: fbbfd No.383
No one knows who Miles Morales is.
Oh sure, he's big among comic fans. But he hasn't had the decades of pop cultural osmosis to spread into the minds of the general populace as Peter Parker has.
Honestly saying "Why not Miles?" is sort of like saying "Why not Ben Reilly?"
ID: 0b78c No.384
Dude, what if Toby Macguire is the real Peter Parker, and the Amazing Spiderman films are Ben Riley's memories?
ID: 6995e No.387
616 is being blown up too. Miles is just gonna make it to the new world along with Peter because Marvel didn't want to deal with the backlash of taking out Miles.
ID: 7564c No.388
I actually agree with you, but they've also shown that they want the comics to be more in-line with the movies to hopefully cross-pollinate to new readers, so for me it felt like a 60/40 toss up in favour of Miles.>>387
This is what I get for halfass reading what's going on. I started by trying to catch up on Iron Man and my eyes crossed so I just stopped there.
ID: f3be1 No.393
I swear they are like vocal bulls who hate the color white. Probably hate sunshine too, despite it illuminating rainbows after a rainy day.
Keep on hating though, lord knows it's the only thing that keeps them from researching the fact that there are black superheroes already. And a few of them have gotten screen time.
ID: e1fb4 No.399
>researching the fact that there are black superheroes already
Actually, that was brought up here, when Gashi-Gashi was attacked by Tumblrinas for depicting Garnet from SU with light skin.http://nichegamer.com/2015/04/tumblr-attacks-japanese-artist-for-re-creating-black-character-with-white-skin/
One person claimed that black characters are very underrepresented in modern media (which is far from truth), and when someone brought up "what about all those black superheroes, many of which are widely known and very popular?" that person went "well they're still underrepresented because I say so! You should look at actual facts!!
They will never accept the truth because facts do not fit with their narrative and victim complex.
ID: 0b78c No.400
So having just watched the season finale of Daredevil, I've got to say that I really enjoyed it. Although the last episode was kind of meh, I'm looking forward to the future netflix series. Especially Iron Fist
ID: 6995e No.401
It's because they're counting and if it's not an even number across the board, it's a travesty and something that needs to be fixed.
ID: c6e52 No.402
Lots of people may have heard of Cyborg, sure, but how many memorable stories involving Cyborg in a leading
role can you name off the top of your head? (This can include the original Teen Titans
animated series.) Now compare that number to the wealth of memorable stories for Superman, Batman, Flash, or even Wonder Woman.
The number of black characters matters, but so does the quality of stories they receive and a character's status as the true “star” of said stories.
ID: 6d5bc No.403
Yes, we must establish a Comics Story Enforcement Authority to force writers to write not the stories they want to write, but the stories that assure a numerical and quality ratio that is fair.
ID: c6e52 No.404
Got any more scarecrows you wanna stuff while we’re here?
ID: 5b950 No.405
I might ram some straw up your butt but it'd threaten to hold you upright in the breeze that determines your opinion each day.
What else do you suggest, exactly? Every time one of these "we need" or "we deserve" statements comes up, no one says how they're going to get it. Are you going to force the writers to write to some nebulous quota? No? Are you going to bitch at writers whenever they don't write to make samesaid nebulous quota? No? Well, I think we've established that the goal is "Let writers write what the fuck they want and judge it on its merits thereof and not whether it meets quota", so fuck off with anything else.
ID: c6e52 No.406
>What else do you suggest, exactly?
Honestly? Anything I suggest would sound like “quotas” or “orders” or “directives”, so I’m just gonna shut up and pretend I never fucking said a thing about this subject.
ID: 0b78c No.407
Static Shock was really good.
ID: 28258 No.408
yea, he was pretty good, heck he even had a part where he goes into the future and meet his future self who is rather big time hero then.
ID: f6b48 No.409
And don't forget the crossover with JLU
ID: fbbfd No.410
Finally watching Daredevil. Just wrapping up the first ep.
Man the movie was better than this shit.
ID: 42e5a No.412
Parts of it suck. Parts of it are weird. Parts of it are really good.
Although, Foggy was really the reason I kept watching the show.
ID: 6995e No.414
Really enjoyed Age of Ultron. Had some minor critiques, but overall it's worth seeing and just enjoying.
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Idiots. I highly doubt any of these claims were well written.
ID: f5727 No.430
Wait, what happened exactly?
ID: f5727 No.431
Actually, looking it up further he deleted his Twitter account not because of being harassed, but because he was pressured into it by Marvel execs after he made some controversial comments about upcoming Jurassic Park and Annie movies.http://www.themarysue.com/joss-whedon-deleted-twitter-account/
ID: 498f9 No.432
, Whedon quit Twitter after people harassed him over “problematic” parts of Age of Ultron
(including a rape joke made by Tony Stark and parts of Black Widow’s storyline in the film).
I don’t think that’s the only
reason he quit, but it probably gave him a good excuse.
ID: b1460 No.433
>>428>So apparently due to him being a 'sexist white male pig' who ruined Age of Ultron forever with his sexist writing, Joss Whedon has been harassed clear off of Twitter.
I can't say I feel sorry for him, after some of the shit he's said on there.
He chose to lay down in the nest of vipers that is SJWism, even as they bit at him WHILE he was laying down in it. Hard to feel sorry for him when they all
decided to bite and bite harder once he'd settled in.
ID: ccf5e No.434
The "Problematic"(god I hate that word) part of the story was that Black Widow allegedly called herself a monster because she had a Hysterectomy.
In full context she called herself a monster because she was mentally and surgically conditioned to murder without remorse.
ID: 732d2 No.435
Yeah, it's always interesting to watch the SJW mob turn on one of their own. In some ways it's more vicious.
ID: 6995e No.436
Woah woah woah… Let's not be rational here.
ID: 498f9 No.437
Remember when I used the word “allegedly” in relation to why Whedon left Twitter?
Well, as it turns out…
>Joss Whedon Calls “Horsesh*t” On Reports He Left Twitter Because Of Militant Feministshttp://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter
ID: 732d2 No.438
Pull the other fucking one, it's got bells on.
ID: 6995e No.440
Apparently he left Twitter because reasons.
ID: c78aa No.441
So having seen Age of Ultron, my thoughts are that it's very good, but it definitely has pacing problems, almost certainly caused by the large amount of material cut out of it.
I'm anticipating an Extended Cut, and I think at that point there's every chance that it will be better than the first one. Right now I think it's not quite as good.
Though I'm hoping that Civil War will be the last time we have to have "the heroes come into direct conflict" as a plot point. It worked in the first one because "superheroes fight the first time they meet" is sort of a tradition so it worked as an introductory kind of thing, but I really hope that we can get past this thing where every single movie with more than one superhero in it has to involve a significant portion of runtime with them not trusting each other to the point of outright fighting. It already sucks that the comics have the heroes spending 90% of their time fighting other heroes instead of villains, so it'd be good if we could move away from that in the movies.
ID: 687f3 No.442
>because "superheroes fight the first time they meet" is sort of a tradition
Am I the only one who's really getting tired of this "tradition"? Not every superhero crossover has to start with everyone at each other's throats.
ID: 6c9c3 No.443
Thoughts on Age of Ultron:
* Unlike Sechs, I didn't mind the “heroes fighting each other” bit, since it played well into two overarching throughlines of the Avengers/MCU story: Banner worrying about “going green” at the wrong time in the wrong place, and the schism between Captain America and Iron Man. (We’ll see the endgame for that in Civil War, I’d assume.)
* Ultron made for a good villain—doing the wrong thing for what he thought was the right reason—but I think he could’ve benefitted from a bit more development that Marvel may have made Whedon sacrifice for the runtime.
* If Bruce snagged the “breakout” performance in Avengers, Hawkeye got it in Ultron. Damn shame he might not be back until Infinity War.
* I’m honestly a little shocked that Whedon/Marvel signed off on Tony levelling that tower with Hulk inside, considering the 9/11 imagery invoked by that scene. (That said? Hulk vs. “Veronica” is the best action sequence of the film.)
* Ultron hit Iron Man 2-levels of “worldbuilding” and foreshadowing—not counting the mid-credits stinger (Infinity War), we got references to Wakanda (Black Panther), Thor's visions (Thor: Ragnarok), the Maximoff twins (easily seen as a precursor to Inhumans), and all the Cap/Tony bickering (Civil War). My hope is that the Phase Three films don’t do nearly that level of bullshit.
* As for the Whedon bullshittery…I’m not qualified enough to talk about it, but I am qualified enough to know that his trademark “snarkmaster” writing permeated Ultron almost as badly as—if not worse than—it did in Avengers. Ultron and Hawkeye do make for excellent snarkmasters, though (and Hawkeye kinda deserves the role, since he’s the only Avenger besides Black Widow to lack either superpowers or the wealth necessary to mimic them).
I’d definitely hold out to see if Marvel will let Whedon do a “Director’s Cut” that puts in the stuff Marvel asked him to axe. But regardless, the film is still a fun watch, and I honestly think it’s a little better-plotted (or at least more character-oriented) than Avengers.
Guardians of the Galaxy and Winter Soldier still beat it in terms of quality, though. Here’s hoping the Russos pull off a miracle with Infinity War.
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And speaking of Civil War, Marvel announced the start of production on the film—and confirmed a shitload of characters for it.
Coming straight from Marvel’s website, Civil War will feature the following characters: Steve Rogers/Captain America, Tony Stark/Iron Man, Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow, Bucky Barnes/The Winter Soldier, Sam Wilson/Falcon, The Vision, Clint Barton/Hawkeye, Jim Rhodes/War Machine, Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch, Scott Lang/Ant-Man, T’Challa/Black Panther, Sharon Carter/Agent 13, Brock Rumlow/Crossbones, and General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross (with William Hurt reprising the role from The Incredible Hulk). And that’s not counting Spider-Man or any other surprises Marvel may have up its sleeve.
So…shit, Civil War may as well be Avengers 3.
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>>443>(easily seen as a precursor to Inhumans)
Actually on Agents of SHIELD we are dealing with inhumans right now. They officially used the name.
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I meant film-wise. Not everyone watches Agents of SHIELD
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But it's all connected. I was told the beginning of Age of Ultron has a lot less pacing issues of you watched last week's AoS.
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Not really, the pacing issues are still there. And that last 5 minutes of the episode before it was "Go See Age of Ultron!" So it wasn't TOO connected.
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Interesting implications in the season 2 finale of Agents of SHIELD. Seeds of Civil War already hinted at.
Also, I've determined that Fitz is the Pippin of AoS.
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I'm a little shocked that they just flat out killed Simmons in the stinger at the end
Really took my by surprise.
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I wasn't that surprised. I thought to myself "Hm. This episode hasn't quite hit its Whedon quotient. Someone in this scene is definitely gonna YUP there it is."I don't know that we can assume she's actually dead though.
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>>477If Fitz and Simmons are ever allowed to hook up, the Marvel universe ends.>>480
Yup. Whedon factor.
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It's really more about how…unceremoneous it was. Just a sudden BOOM floosh cut to black. Whole thing took under a second. That's more what suprised me.
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Finished Daredevil the other day, liked it.
All that yellow light. I kept wondering if New York is actually like that at night or if it was a deliberate choice.
Re: Madam Gao: She's a Secret Martial Arts Master (look how she threw him across the room), some kind of cult leader (her workers blinded themselves for her) and she's returning home to somewhere 'farther' than China. Now I'm a Filthy Casual where the comics are concerned, but a friend more in the know agrees with me that there may be a strong connection here to Iron Fist lore. Apparently the symbol on the heroin packets is part of that too.
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Iron Fist is one of the planned Netflix shows and all of the Netflix shows have an endgame (The Defenders
) much like the MCU films had (The Avengers
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Agreed 100% about you on Gao.
Take a look at this, though.
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Wait…wasn’t it actually yellow when it went into Vision’s forehead?
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The gem colors have been inconsistent in the comic over the years and don't let anyone tell you differently.
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Also, Orb might be Soul, and Tesseract might be Power. It's all a little unclear.
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I thought they explicitly stated that the Orb is Power Gem.
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And considering how the Tesseract opened a portal to another part of space…
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It was also used as a power source by Hydra. Of course I could be totally wrong so what do I know?
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H…Helmet. HOLY SHIT Antman's helmet will be powered by an infinity gem.
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I'm honestly getting tired of the whole Infinity Gem thing. I mean, I get that it's the metaplot tying the movies together, but it's turning from an overarcing thing into pic related.
Weird Nazi tech? Powered by an Infinity Gem. Arc Reactor? Created after studying said Infinity Gem. Sentient AI? Infinity Gem.
At this point the only characters that can't trace their powers back to an Infinity Gem at some point are Thor, Cap, Hulk, and the unpowereds. (Assuming that Falcon's flightsuit is based on Stark tech, though they've never specified that so maybe him.) And frankly I wouldn't be shocked at this point that Asgardian magitech is powered by an Infinity Gem (Thor's bit in Avengers seems to imply this anyway) and that the creator of the super soldier formula got the idea from one somehow, which would link both Cap and the Hulk.
Eh. I'm probably making a bigger deal of it than it is. I'm just kind of annoyed at the extent
everything seems to be revolving around these plot coupons.
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Was the Arc Reactor based on research from the Tesserract? It's my understanding it was mentioned in the first Iron Man movie as being created to keep "the hippies happy" by Obidiah (Starks partner). Made me think he and Tony made it after Howard Stark died, before Tony found out his dad was with Shield and before the Tesseract became known.
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AFAIK the movies say nothing about the arc reactor being based off inf. gems
…they're based of 86's RL research into cold fusion - just using a different name.
>fun science fact
Paladium electrolysis processes using sea-water has a funny tendensy create more heat-energy than you put electric-energy into 'em. Basically: Cold fusion with nothing more energetic than boiling water.
The trick is finding a way to stabilize the process.
SO quite honestly: Of all the Marvel superhero-tech, the arc reactor is actually the closest thing to science fact out there